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Goo Goo Dolls' Johnny Rzeznik: "Everybody’s quietly freaking out”

Goo Goo Dolls

Goo Goo Dolls on Miracle Pill, Anxiety, and the Need for Connection in a Fractured World

If Miracle Pill were an actual prescription, John Rzeznik wouldn’t be the first in line, but he’d probably still take it. “There are days,” he admits, “where I just wish I could take a pill and be everything I wanted to be. But there isn’t one. There isn’t one.”

Released in 2019, Miracle Pill arrived with the sort of bright, accessible polish that screams “radio-ready,” but underneath the surface were heavier ingredients: aging, disconnection, hope, and the futile chase for instant happiness. “I think that the pace that we’re going at in the world is so fast and people are so isolated,” Rzeznik said. “We’re all hiding behind avatars and profiles and pretending we’re doing great, but inside, everybody’s quietly freaking out.”

If that sounds a little dark for a Goo Goo Dolls record, it shouldn’t. This is the band that wrote Dizzy Up the Girl—a massive pop-rock album about vulnerability dressed up in late-90s radio gloss. They’ve always been emotional smokescreen artists. With Miracle Pill, Rzeznik and bassist Robby Takac dial into that formula again, but this time the sound is updated: sleek synth textures, programmed beats, and just enough guitar to remind you where they came from.

“I’m not ashamed of trying to grow up,” Rzeznik says. “A lot of rock bands are terrified of aging, but you’ve got to be honest with yourself. I’m not 25 anymore. But that doesn’t mean I want to stop making music. It just means the music has to reflect where I actually am.”

For Miracle Pill, that meant collaborating with a new crop of producers, including Sam Hollander (Panic! at the Disco, Fitz and the Tantrums), and leaning into contemporary pop sounds. “I wanted it to be modern,” he explained, “but not trendy. There’s a difference.”

The title track is maybe the most direct expression of the album’s thesis: catchy, urgent, and a little desperate. “I need a miracle pill,” Rzeznik sings, not quite buying it even as he says it. “It’s about the idea that you can buy your way to peace,” he said. “Spoiler alert: you can’t.”

Takac, always the more punk-leaning of the duo, brings his own chaos to the album with tracks like “Step in Line.” But he’s also more upbeat about the process. “We’ve been through a lot, man,” he said. “And we’ve seen so many bands come and go. The fact that we’re still here, still making records? That feels like the miracle pill to me.”

Even so, both acknowledge that the landscape has changed since their Iris-dominating days. “The world’s broken into a million little corners,” Rzeznik said. “You used to put out a song and everybody heard it. Now it’s like you’re dropping pebbles into a black hole and hoping for a ripple.”

But somehow, the Goo Goo Dolls remain stubbornly present. “We tour harder now than we did in the 90s,” said Takac. “I still love playing live. I love the connection. That’s the part of all this that still feels real.”

Rzeznik agrees. “There’s no pill for what music gives you. And that’s probably a good thing. We’d all OD.”

That’s Miracle Pill in a nutshell—bright on the outside, uneasy underneath, and still chasing a feeling that can’t be synthesized.

“I don’t need perfect,” Rzeznik said. “I just want to feel something.”

And after three decades, they still do.

Listen to the interview above and then check out the videos below.

Kyle is the WFPK Program Director. Email Kyle at kmeredith@lpm.org

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