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Pixies' Black Francis: "We let goth lead the way"

Pixies

The Pixies on Gothic Vibes, Tooth Guitars, and Letting the Myth Leak a Little

The Pixies don’t do half-measures. They once broke up via fax, released an album called Trompe le Monde and meant it, and now they’re back with Beneath the Eyrie and a companion podcast that does what few mythic bands dare: let us watch the sausage being made.

But don’t worry—there’s still plenty of entrails and mystery. The album was recorded in a church. There’s a vampire-tooth guitar involved. And producer Tom Dalgety, returning after his stint on their last record, seems to be leaning into the folklore. “We had a discussion that maybe the next recording session would take on a gothic tone,” said Charles Thompson, aka Black Francis. “I think in the end the result… guided it.”

Paz Lenchantin steps into the lead vocal slot for "Los Surfers Muertos" a track about Killer Dana, a legendary wave in California that was buried under a manmade harbor. It fits right in with the new album’s aesthetic of haunted Americana—surfboards, ghost towns, church reverb, and yes, the aforementioned vampire guitar. “I lost my first adult tooth a few years ago,” Charles explained, “and I had the luthier put it in a black guitar with only four strings. I was calling it my vampire guitar.”

Even the behind-the-scenes podcast leans into the chaos. “It didn’t really get in the way,” Charles said of having their recording process documented. “I wish I was more cognizant of it being recorded.” Of course, some spontaneity is more curated than others. “It’s being promoted as unfiltered,” he admitted, “but I get an advance edit of each podcast before it goes out. Just to make sure I didn’t say something stupid.”

And yet for all the vamping and vague mysticism, the most striking thing about the Pixies is how anti-myth they remain. Forget Fight Club, forget Nirvana’s name-drops. “Joey was the manager of a warehouse near the docks,” Charles said. “And I was the manager of another warehouse next door. That was our day job when we first started the band. I think the breakthrough was when we gave notice.”

No epiphanies, no champagne moments. Just the freedom to make weird, loud music full-time. “That’s the measure,” Charles said. “You get to do what you want to do.”

And what they wanted to do this time was build a haunted surfboard chapel with distortion pedals and some tooth DNA.

Watch the interview above and then check out the videos below.

Kyle is the WFPK Program Director. Email Kyle at kmeredith@lpm.org

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