Civil Rights educator john a. powell will be in Louisville on Tuesday to deliver the eighth annual Anne Braden Memorial Lecture. He recently spoke with Jaison Gardner and Kaila Story, hosts of WFPL's Strange Fruit, about his concept of a “culture of belonging,” and the problems with a so-called colorblind approach to policy and interpersonal relationships. We posted a shortened version of the interview above. “Most Americans, including most white Americans, even if they don’t see race or try not see race at the conscious level, the unconscious is seeing it and acting on it and processing it in a very robust way,” he said. “So in a sense we don’t even have a choice.” (The entire conversation is available on the Strange Fruit website.)